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nouveau_monday ([personal profile] nouveau_monday) wrote2008-03-31 09:53 pm
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ATWT is trying to kill me

I wanted to write hugs and puppies and now I'm stuck in confusion. What just went on today? Also, there is someone on my FL who kept on talking junk about Luke and Casey hooking up. I am so very not down with this. You know who you are. I blame you entirely.

However, points for Noah saying he loved Luke and points for that snuggle at the end.

[identity profile] boymommytotwo.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 03:00 am (UTC)(link)

oh, totally.

heart broke for luke when he went to say goodbye to noah before class and was turned away. :'(

i thought it was completely cute how freaked casey got at luke when the four of them were coming up with "the plan"... they both played it perfect and luke telling him he was cute as he left java... to die for!

and look at our noah!!! he staked his claim! HELLO!!!! he made sure luke knew he was _his_, and not anyone else's... and it would NOT have killed atwt to make that scene like ten seconds longer. grrrr...

the boys were both SO cute today!

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
major icon love.

that scene could have definitely been longer. or they could have gone out to the barn and made out like bunnies. SOMETHING. ugh.

i just don't understand the whole casey plot and where it's going and for that reason it makes me hella uncomfortable. i just don't trust it. (which is good and all for a soap opera but it doesn't mean as a viewer I enjoy it.)

and also, what was up with that shot of Ameera being all waah-waah? is she hoping she'll convert noah and luke away from their sins?

[identity profile] belyste.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always a little confused by the complete lack of continuity - last week Luke was saying it's no big deal they can't make out in public, this week he throws a hissy fit about it? What? - but yeah, today's episode went down a really weird road. I'm not really sure where they're going with this foursome thing. And seriously, solution to being caught in lies = more convoluted lies? (Since I don't have any fandom-appropriate icons, Sam will have to express my discontent with this logic.)

But Noah saying he loved Luke was awesome, as was grabbing Luke and telling him who he belongs to. It's kind of funny that getting married to someone else has either made or coincided with him getting more comfortable saying those things to Luke.

[identity profile] ithilien22.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, I thought the Cake scenes today were kind of cute. ♥

But then again, anything that turns kicked!puppy!Luke into smiley!laughing!Luke is always good with me. I'm easy that way. :)

i know... don't our boys make the _best_ icons _ever_?

[identity profile] boymommytotwo.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 04:43 am (UTC)(link)

again, i KNOW!!! when luke went after him on the street at school i was shouting "YOU HAVE A BARN!!!" too true. i am, however, going to remain grateful and hopeful that at least we got body contact in that last scene that lasted 2.1 seconds. like bunnies, better... but it's something.

see, i'm not minding the whole casey thing b/c 1. he's cutie-patutie too and 2. he'll eventually take ameera off our hands... see? it's a good idea, isn't it?

i'm not sure exactly what ameera's thing is. which exact "waah-waah" moment are you referring to? sometimes she's looking totally posessive of noah (and i'm glad luke called her on it to noah at the end there today), and sometimes she's all "oh no b/c of me" with a trace of sincerity.

do you know if this is the last we see of them this week or will we be graced otherwise?

oh, boys...

Re: i know... don't our boys make the _best_ icons _ever_?

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
i think - though i'm not sure - that this was it for the week. I'd like to think otherwise because if the story is moving forward, then don't we get to see them more?!?!? *whinge*

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, i thought that was weird. I mean, I vaguely remember being a first year in college and thinking that if lying would fix things, then more lying must really fix things, but seriously, I was never dealing with immigration. *rolls eyes* Oh well, i guess that's what makes it a soap opera.

Actually, I really really want one of them to comment that things are crazy, and couldn't be crazier unless they were on a soap opera.

Sam is always a good way to express confusion or malcontent.

I did like the part at the end, and i liked when noah just casually put an arm on luke and said he loved him. also, i liked that noah didn't freak out about luke saying that casey was his boyfriend.

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
i do like smiley!happy!luke. he's so cute.

[identity profile] belyste.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true. Lying is pretty much a hobby for people on soap operas, so I shouldn't really be surprised. But you'd think if you were lying to the government, you'd think up a better story than that.

And what was up with Ameera saying "Everyone gets what they want except me"? She gets to stay in America and hang out with Casey. If she doesn't want her life to be a lie, maybe she shouldn't have married a gay guy.

Anyway! Sorry to ramble on at you, but I don't know anyone else who watches the show, so I get carried away talking about it. :D

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
keep on with the rambling! i love and encourage all the rambling. I only talk to people about the boys here. so ramble ramble ramble ramble!

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-01 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I so haven't talked about Casey/Luke except to you once, so I can't be the one to blame this time. Er am I?

I don't want Casey and Luke together at all. Even in the fake way. It's all kinds of weird.

Noah and Luke are made of love. ♥ I thought I might melt with the cuddly-grabby thing at the end of the episode.

I wish we had some idea when the angst would end.

Re: i know... don't our boys make the _best_ icons _ever_?

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-02 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
hey - apparently i was wrong about when they were next going to be on. They're going to be at will/gwen's going away party on friday, so i don't know if there will be plot re: noah/luke, but they should be on the show.

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that you only mentioned it once, but you're the only one who mentioned it at all to me that I can personally blame. And it's good to have someone to personally blame.


Did you see that mis-cut spoiler earlier today about ameera? I don't know if it's true, but if so, ugh.

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
thank you for accepting the appropriate amount of blame. it's good of you :)

I'm going to delete your comment so no one else has to deal with this possible rumor, but yeah, I'm done.

The real problem for me is that Tala Ashe may be a lovely person, but as a character? The show doesn't have Luke/Noah on enough to make the addition of her worth it. We haven't met her enough to care about her. (At least I haven't.)

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, someone has too I guess. :P

Erm. Okay.

Well, for me, if she had no connection to Luke or Noah and certainly wasn't married to one of them, I think I would like her or not completely hate her. But she's basically the cause of the angst, so I hate her. And yeah, they aren't on enough for that...they are barely on enough for me to care about them! I ♥ them but...the storyline is very irritating. (You're right. Mostly I think she needs to be stronger. You got out of a war zone and got here, have some back bone!)

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
aside from the backbone, give her some backstory about her time in the US. How did she find Noah, what was she doing, etc. etc. etc. Why does she have weird moments of culture shock and then not other moments of culture shock. It makes no sense.

Feh. I'm just whingy. I should be writing.

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
She is very inconsistently written which is really annoying and like you said makes no sense. I thought when Casey mentioned a bomb the other day she'd flinch or something but...

It's certainly not bothering me. :) Writing? Yay!

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't figure out the deal with her. Also, because I'm new to watching the show, i don't know how long to wait before ends get at least vaguely tied. How long before we figure something out about the letter being stolen from Noah's backpack?

Maybe the secret will be that she's not really from iraq? The thing is, i think ATWT is treading a dangerous line, much like with luke/noah, you have to give an honest and decent portrayal or people will be pissed. One of the questions for me becomes, is it somehow to show Ameera unfavorably because of where she's from, and if so, EEEW, and if not, then what? She can't be a good character if she's busy screwing up Luke/Noah, and Luke/Noah can't be good if they're being screwed up ... and didn't people adore Maddie? If Casey is out of jail and being a good puppy, shouldn't Maddie show up again to reclaim her man (aside from when he says you can only accept me if you can accept Matt as well, but that's just a side note, really.)

If i can get past the opening paragraphs, the writing will be good. I need to zip this out so I get caught up. Valentine's took two months to complete both parts, so that shifted me way out of time sync. The alley bit only took a week though, so maybe I'm catching my second wind or my stride or some such cliche.

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
You have to figure she took it. Watch, they'll probably never tie it together. *rolls eyes*

Well, Maddie and Casey broke up on not great terms when Casey was in prison, so I'm not sure how thrilled she'd be...with Casey in general. I personally hated Maddie. She irritates the fuck out of me and I was honestly happy she left. I don't know about Ameera she is written so oddly it's hard to tell her real motive. But I don't think they can make her a major villain because she's from Iraq. It's that ling like you said.

Why are those first parts always the hardest?

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I saw the casey/maddie break up and i thought it was handled well. He was letting her go. which was the correct thing to do. and it seemed like they still had a connection, because Noah + Maddie = 0 chemistry, actually more like negative chemistry, and not just because Noah was queer and in love with Luke, but because Maddie still wanted Casey.

So somehow the fact that Luke is all about this ameera thing and all, I don't know, it's weird. Did I miss him phoning Maddie to tell her he was back in town or anything? I don't think I did.

The first part isn't the hardest for me, it's the third ... well ... the third paragraph, usually, or there about. True to form, my first two paragraphs are all good and now I hesitate to move forward. I always fear that my stuff will suck massively and people will mock me forever.

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I do like Casey/Maddie I guess. She just annoyed me, so I kinda get all grrr when she's around.

Yeah. I think they did that though so when Noah came out she wouldn't devastated. Or maybe partly.

Yeah. Um. I don't think so.

Awww. I don't think you could suck. Honestly. You're writing is amazingly brilliant. But I understand the fear. *hug*

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I never saw Casey/Maddie together, but they sound like they were quite the thing, whatever that thing can be when one is in high school and one's SO is in jail.

Agreed on the her not being so devastated, but also, I assumed they were leaving open the possibility for them to re-hook later.

Thanks for the compliment, appreciated. always. even when i recognize fear as somewhat irrational, sadly, it doesn't make it go away.

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen clips.

I think they leave that possibility open for everyone.

Anytime. :)

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen clips as well, but they seemed pretty clear. *shrugs who knows*

They absolutely leave that possibility open. A character that I loved on Guiding Light (when i was in 7th grade) is back on the show now. A LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time later, and I'm pretty sure I caught a trailer that said her love interest from that time was about to come back to the show. Yeah. Weird. Tres weird.

who knows.

up to three whole paragraphs now!

[identity profile] forbiddenromanc.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I ♥ Guiding Light. Who'd they bring back?

:D Well, in the same sort of thing, some soap is bring back a character that was dead! And his girlfriend was a doctor but now he like...faked it or something. Anything can be reversed on a soap.

Yayyyyyyy!

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Harley is the one who left - and i stopped watching when she did because keep in mind I was 12-14 when I watched her and I couldn't figure out if I wanted to be her or jump her or what. It was most confusing. But she's been back awhile.

I'm pretty sure I heard something about Phillip returning. And then's when I got all confused. Phillip returning now ... ummm ... 20 years later?

[identity profile] sunnypeach.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree w/ ya. Let Casey/Ameera get married instead.

[identity profile] nouveau-monday.livejournal.com 2008-04-08 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
or something. anything but what's going on now.